On measuring integrity with Professor Lucio Picci, University of Bologna

On measuring integrity with Professor Lucio Picci, University of Bologna

Lucio Picci, Professor of Economics at the University of Bologna, gives us his musings on measuring integrity direct from our think-in on the topic in Vienna in Autumn 2022.

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The Global Programme for Measuring Corruption (‘GPMC’) recently held a 'think-in' at the HQ of the International Anti-Corruption Academy, in Vienna, to examine how measuring a different concept - integrity - could help change the narrative and yield better outcomes in the anti-corruption field.

The GPMC assembled a learned, thoughtful and talkative team of practitioners and academics, from a diverse range of disciplines and continents, to listen, debate and learn about the topic over four days in Vienna.

In this one-on-one conversation with Lucio Picci, a Professor in the Department of Economics at the University of Bologna, Italy, he talks about; his interest in the anti-corruption field, how measuring integrity could help change the narrative around corruption, and the challenges in doing so.

More about Lucio Picci

His research interests are at the intersection between political economy, public governance, and the economics of innovation. Prof. Picci has studied the problem of corruption, and the role of reputational incentives in public governance. He has worked, or consulted, for international organizations such as the European Commission, the World Bank, and the United Nations, and for several branches of the Italian government. His work has been published in American Journal of Political Science; Journal of Business & Economic Statistics; Research Policy; The Review of Economics and Statistics; and The World Bank Economic Review. Currently, Prof. Picci is writing a book, tentatively titled "Rethinking Corruption".

Want to hear more?

We recorded one-on-one conversations with all of the other participants at the think-in in Vienna whch are available to listent to now on all the major podcast platforms. https://measurement-matters.zencast.website

After the event we also recorded a conversation between the co-organisers of the 'think-in' - Liz David Barrett, Dieter Zinnbauer and Juan Ceballos - on why they chose the topic, what they learnt from the event and how it will inform the 'Programme' over the coming months. Click here to listen to that episode.

Want to read more?

If you would like to read more on the topic then:

Here’s our background briefing paper (LINK TO FOLLOW) published before the think-in; and

Here’s our key insights paper published (LINK TO FOLLOW) after the think-in

If you want to find out more about the programme, visit this link:


And if you have specific questions please feel free to email the team: gpmc@iaca.int


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